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Protect Your Infant Against Herpes Virus Infection Caused by metzitzah b'peh - The Jewish ritual of sucking the baby's penis after circumcision
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Communicable Disease : NYC DOHMH

Before the Bris: How to Protect Your Infant Against Herpes Virus Infection
Caused by metzitzah b'peh

Circumcision has health benefits. Recently, however, the Health Department
has documented several cases of herpes infection in newborns after
circumcisions that included metzitzah b'peh. Metzitzah b'pehis a religious
practice performed by some mohelim (religious circumcisers) in the Jewish
community. Some of these infants became seriously ill. One baby died, and
another suffered brain damage.

Because there is no proven way to reduce the risk of herpes infection posed
by metzitzah b'peh, the Health Department recommends that infants being
circumcised not undergo metzitzah b'peh.

To help you protect your baby, we want to make sure that parents understand
the risk of metzitzah b'peh BEFORE the day of the bris, while there is time
to explore other options.
How metzitzah b'peh spreads herpes

In metzitzah b'peh, the mohel places his mouth on the freshly circumcised
penis to draw blood away from the cut. If the mohel is infected with oral
herpes (as most adults are), metzitzah b'peh can expose the infant to the
herpes virus. While severe illness associated with this practice may be rare
, there is a definite risk of infection.

Oral herpes spreads easily through saliva, especially when saliva touches a
cut or break in the skin, such as during metzitzah b'peh.Most people with
oral herpes don't know they are infected and don't have symptoms. Even
without symptoms, however, people can spread the infection.

Because the immune system of newborns is not developed enough to fight
serious infection, herpes infections pose grave risks to infants.
There is no proven way to reduce the risk of metzitzah b'peh

Although a mohel may use oral rinses or sip wine before metzitzah b'peh,
there is no evidence that these actions reduce the spread of herpes. A mohel
who takes antiviral medication may reduce the risk of spreading herpes virus
during metzitzah b'peh, but there is no evidence that taking medication
eliminates this risk.
Many mohelim do NOT practice metzitzah b'peh

While some religious authorities consider metzitzah b'peh the only
acceptable way to draw blood away from the circumcision cut, others use
different means. For example, some mohelim use a glass tube - or a glass
tube attached to a rubber bulb - to suction blood in a way that does not
include contact between the mohel's mouth and the baby's cut. Others use a
sponge or sterile gauze pad to wipe blood away. Unlike metzitzah b'peh,
there is no evidence that any of these practices causes infection.
Ask about metzitzah b'pehBEFORE the day of the bris

Some parents whose infants had metzitzah b'peh say they did not know the
mohel would perform it. The Health Department recommends that parents ask
the mohel several days before the bris if he practices metzitzah b'peh. This
will give time to talk to your doctor and consider other options for
circumcision.

For more information on circumcision, talk to your family doctor or
pediatrician.
More information


An Open Letter to the Jewish Community from the New York City Health
Commissioner (PDF)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/std/std-bris-commishletter.pdf
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Craig Stevens
2008-04-29 20:10:02 UTC
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The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/std/std-bris.shtml
Communicable Disease : NYC DOHMH
Before the Bris: How to Protect Your Infant Against Herpes Virus Infection
Caused by metzitzah b'peh
Circumcision has health benefits. Recently, however, the Health Department
has documented several cases of herpes infection in newborns after
circumcisions that included metzitzah b'peh. Metzitzah b'pehis a religious
practice performed by some mohelim (religious circumcisers) in the Jewish
community. Some of these infants became seriously ill. One baby died, and
another suffered brain damage.
Because there is no proven way to reduce the risk of herpes infection posed
by metzitzah b'peh, the Health Department recommends that infants being
circumcised not undergo metzitzah b'peh.
To help you protect your baby, we want to make sure that parents understand
the risk of metzitzah b'peh BEFORE the day of the bris, while there is time
to explore other options.
How metzitzah b'peh spreads herpes
In metzitzah b'peh, the mohel places his mouth on the freshly circumcised
penis to draw blood away from the cut.
Those who do such should be prosecuted for being pederasts and child abusers.
I don't see any such perverted practice being commanded in the law of Moses.
I made an addition at the bottom of this post because it dovetails to this information
which everyone should be made aware of.
Post by God's Chosen Person
If the mohel is infected with oral herpes (as most adults are), metzitzah b'peh
can expose the infant to the herpes virus. While severe illness associated with
this practice may be rare, there is a definite risk of infection.
Oral herpes spreads easily through saliva, especially when saliva touches a
cut or break in the skin, such as during metzitzah b'peh.Most people with
oral herpes don't know they are infected and don't have symptoms. Even
without symptoms, however, people can spread the infection.
Because the immune system of newborns is not developed enough to fight
serious infection, herpes infections pose grave risks to infants.
There is no proven way to reduce the risk of metzitzah b'peh
Although a mohel may use oral rinses or sip wine before metzitzah b'peh,
there is no evidence that these actions reduce the spread of herpes. A mohel
who takes antiviral medication may reduce the risk of spreading herpes virus
during metzitzah b'peh, but there is no evidence that taking medication
eliminates this risk.
Many mohelim do NOT practice metzitzah b'peh
While some religious authorities consider metzitzah b'peh the only
acceptable way to draw blood away from the circumcision cut, others use
different means. For example, some mohelim use a glass tube - or a glass
tube attached to a rubber bulb - to suction blood in a way that does not
include contact between the mohel's mouth and the baby's cut. Others use a
sponge or sterile gauze pad to wipe blood away. Unlike metzitzah b'peh,
there is no evidence that any of these practices causes infection.
Ask about metzitzah b'pehBEFORE the day of the bris
Some parents whose infants had metzitzah b'peh say they did not know the
mohel would perform it. The Health Department recommends that parents ask
the mohel several days before the bris if he practices metzitzah b'peh. This
will give time to talk to your doctor and consider other options for
circumcision.
For more information on circumcision, talk to your family doctor or
pediatrician.
More information
An Open Letter to the Jewish Community from the New York City Health
Commissioner (PDF)
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/std/std-bris-commishletter.pdf
I saw this posted;

From: "Heinrich" <***@Ruhrgasnet.de>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel
Subject: "Seif the Knife", fellator of 10,000 bloody penises, dies
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:39:46 +0200
Message-ID: <***@mid.individual.net>

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/511007.html

ABRAHAM SEIF, 86
Performed thousands of circumcisions
Posted on Sat, Apr. 26, 2008Digg del.icio.us AIM reprint print email
BY ELINOR J. BRECHER

Cantor Abraham Seif, the ritual circumciser who probably separated more newborn Jewish
boys from their foreskins than any other mohel in South Florida history, has died at 86.

Known far and wide as Seif the Knife -- or The Yankee Clipper -- the Polish-born Holocaust
survivor learned the delicate procedure in Brooklyn after World War II.

By 1988, Seif estimated he'd done 10,000 circumcisions, yet he told The Miami Herald that
he still recalled the first one.

''I fainted,'' he said. ``Everyone does.''

He died on April 21 in Hollywood, where he and Edith Seif, his wife of 57 years, lived
with their daughter, Debbie, and son-in-law, Dr. Israel Wiznitzer. A funeral was held.

When he came to Miami Beach's Knesseth Israel synagogue in 1950, Seif was the only
Orthodox mohel for hundreds of miles around.

By the time he put down his scalpel in the early 2000s -- having trained a son, Rabbi
Howard Seif, and a son-in-law, Rabbi Yitzhak Selmar -- Seif had expanded his territory to
all of Florida, Panama, Caribbean, and parts of the world where the locals wouldn't know a
mohel from a mojito, like Idaho and Haiti.

[...]

His favorite mohel joke, according to Howard: A man who needs his watch repaired walks
into a shop with a clock in the window. The shopkeeper says he doesn't fix clocks; he does
circumcisions.

Customer: ``So why do you have a clock in your window?''

Shopkeeper: ``What do you want me to put in the window?''

''He always played dumb'' when someone told him a joke he'd heard 1,000 times, Howard
said. Abraham Seif was born in the city once called Lemberg, now Lvov, and was conscripted
into the WWII Russian army. The Nazis killed his parents and 14 siblings.

[...]

By the late 1970s, the bris business was so brisk that Seif, on staff at Mount Sinai
Medical Center, brought in Howard, then an accountant and Los Angeles rabbi...

(The almighty dollar seems to be the bottom line.)

... But Seif fought for its life. He'd pick up the congregation's last few elderly men at
home to make sure there was a prayer quorum, and walked them home after Sabbath services
on Friday nights. It was sold in 2003 as a luxury private residence.
I'll Always Be Here
2008-04-30 00:15:15 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:59:31 -0400,
Post by God's Chosen Person
The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/std/std-bris.shtml
Communicable Disease : NYC DOHMH
Before the Bris: How to Protect Your Infant Against Herpes Virus
Infection Caused by metzitzah b'peh
Circumcision has health benefits. Recently, however, the Health
Department has documented several cases of herpes infection in newborns
after circumcisions that included metzitzah b'peh. Metzitzah b'pehis a
religious practice performed by some mohelim (religious circumcisers) in
the Jewish community. Some of these infants became seriously ill. One
baby died, and another suffered brain damage.
Because there is no proven way to reduce the risk of herpes infection
posed by metzitzah b'peh, the Health Department recommends that infants
being circumcised not undergo metzitzah b'peh.
To help you protect your baby, we want to make sure that parents
understand the risk of metzitzah b'peh BEFORE the day of the bris, while
there is time to explore other options.
How metzitzah b'peh spreads herpes
In metzitzah b'peh, the mohel places his mouth on the freshly
circumcised penis to draw blood away from the cut.
Those who do such should be prosecuted for being pederasts and child abusers.
So you truly believe that the mohels derive sexual pleasure from this
procedure?
I don't see any such perverted practice being commanded in the law of Moses.
And that makes you an expert on this?


I made an addition at the bottom of this post because it
dovetails to this information which everyone should be made aware of.
Post by God's Chosen Person
If the mohel is infected with oral herpes (as most adults are),
metzitzah b'peh can expose the infant to the herpes virus. While severe
illness associated with this practice may be rare, there is a definite
risk of infection.
Oral herpes spreads easily through saliva, especially when saliva
touches a cut or break in the skin, such as during metzitzah b'peh.Most
people with oral herpes don't know they are infected and don't have
symptoms. Even without symptoms, however, people can spread the
infection.
Because the immune system of newborns is not developed enough to fight
serious infection, herpes infections pose grave risks to infants.
There is no proven way to reduce the risk of metzitzah b'peh
Although a mohel may use oral rinses or sip wine before metzitzah b'peh,
there is no evidence that these actions reduce the spread of herpes. A
mohel who takes antiviral medication may reduce the risk of spreading
herpes virus during metzitzah b'peh, but there is no evidence that
taking medication eliminates this risk.
Many mohelim do NOT practice metzitzah b'peh
While some religious authorities consider metzitzah b'peh the only
acceptable way to draw blood away from the circumcision cut, others use
different means. For example, some mohelim use a glass tube - or a glass
tube attached to a rubber bulb - to suction blood in a way that does not
include contact between the mohel's mouth and the baby's cut. Others use
a sponge or sterile gauze pad to wipe blood away. Unlike metzitzah
b'peh, there is no evidence that any of these practices causes
infection. Ask about metzitzah b'pehBEFORE the day of the bris
Some parents whose infants had metzitzah b'peh say they did not know the
mohel would perform it. The Health Department recommends that parents
ask the mohel several days before the bris if he practices metzitzah
b'peh. This will give time to talk to your doctor and consider other
options for circumcision.
For more information on circumcision, talk to your family doctor or
pediatrician.
More information
An Open Letter to the Jewish Community from the New York City Health
Commissioner (PDF)
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/std/std-bris-
commishletter.pdf
I saw this posted;
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel
Subject: "Seif the Knife", fellator of 10,000 bloody penises, dies
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:39:46 +0200
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/511007.html
ABRAHAM SEIF, 86
Performed thousands of circumcisions
Posted on Sat, Apr. 26, 2008Digg del.icio.us AIM reprint print email
BY ELINOR J. BRECHER
Cantor Abraham Seif, the ritual circumciser who probably separated more
newborn Jewish boys from their foreskins than any other mohel in South
Florida history, has died at 86.
Known far and wide as Seif the Knife -- or The Yankee Clipper -- the
Polish-born Holocaust survivor learned the delicate procedure in
Brooklyn after World War II.
By 1988, Seif estimated he'd done 10,000 circumcisions, yet he told The
Miami Herald that he still recalled the first one.
''I fainted,'' he said. ``Everyone does.''
He died on April 21 in Hollywood, where he and Edith Seif, his wife of
57 years, lived with their daughter, Debbie, and son-in-law, Dr. Israel
Wiznitzer. A funeral was held.
When he came to Miami Beach's Knesseth Israel synagogue in 1950, Seif
was the only Orthodox mohel for hundreds of miles around.
By the time he put down his scalpel in the early 2000s -- having trained
a son, Rabbi Howard Seif, and a son-in-law, Rabbi Yitzhak Selmar -- Seif
had expanded his territory to all of Florida, Panama, Caribbean, and
parts of the world where the locals wouldn't know a mohel from a mojito,
like Idaho and Haiti.
[...]
His favorite mohel joke, according to Howard: A man who needs his watch
repaired walks into a shop with a clock in the window. The shopkeeper
says he doesn't fix clocks; he does circumcisions.
Customer: ``So why do you have a clock in your window?''
Shopkeeper: ``What do you want me to put in the window?''
''He always played dumb'' when someone told him a joke he'd heard 1,000
times, Howard said. Abraham Seif was born in the city once called
Lemberg, now Lvov, and was conscripted into the WWII Russian army. The
Nazis killed his parents and 14 siblings.
[...]
By the late 1970s, the bris business was so brisk that Seif, on staff at
Mount Sinai Medical Center, brought in Howard, then an accountant and
Los Angeles rabbi...
(The almighty dollar seems to be the bottom line.)
... But Seif fought for its life. He'd pick up the congregation's last
few elderly men at home to make sure there was a prayer quorum, and
walked them home after Sabbath services on Friday nights. It was sold in
2003 as a luxury private residence.
Craig Stevens
2008-04-30 03:38:28 UTC
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Post by Craig Stevens
Post by God's Chosen Person
In metzitzah b'peh, the mohel places his mouth on the freshly
circumcised penis to draw blood away from the cut.
Those who do such should be prosecuted for being pederasts and child abusers.
So you truly believe that the mohels derive sexual pleasure from this
procedure?
I made no such claim that they derived pleasure but the act itself is pederastic thus
being a form of child abuse.
Post by I'll Always Be Here
Post by Craig Stevens
I don't see any such perverted practice being commanded in the law of Moses.
And that makes you an expert on this?
I never claimed to be an expert but I now shift the burden to you to prove the Old
Testament or the Law of Moses commanded men to do such a practice. Sucking a penis after
the foreskin has been removed is not taught in O.T. writings. If it is then you show me
and I will go on public record as being corrected.
Post by I'll Always Be Here
The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/std/std-bris.shtml
Communicable Disease : NYC DOHMH
Before the Bris: How to Protect Your Infant Against Herpes Virus Infection
Caused by metzitzah b'peh
Circumcision has health benefits. Recently, however, the Health Department
has documented several cases of herpes infection in newborns after
circumcisions that included metzitzah b'peh. Metzitzah b'pehis a religious
practice performed by some mohelim (religious circumcisers) in the Jewish
community. Some of these infants became seriously ill. One baby died, and
another suffered brain damage.
Because there is no proven way to reduce the risk of herpes infection posed
by metzitzah b'peh, the Health Department recommends that infants being
circumcised not undergo metzitzah b'peh.
To help you protect your baby, we want to make sure that parents understand
the risk of metzitzah b'peh BEFORE the day of the bris, while there is time
to explore other options.
How metzitzah b'peh spreads herpes
In metzitzah b'peh, the mohel places his mouth on the freshly circumcised
penis to draw blood away from the cut.
Those who do such should be prosecuted for being pederasts and child abusers.
I don't see any such perverted practice being commanded in the law of Moses.
I made an addition at the bottom of this post because it dovetails to this information
which everyone should be made aware of.
Post by I'll Always Be Here
If the mohel is infected with oral herpes (as most adults are), metzitzah b'peh
can expose the infant to the herpes virus. While severe illness associated with
this practice may be rare, there is a definite risk of infection.
Oral herpes spreads easily through saliva, especially when saliva touches a
cut or break in the skin, such as during metzitzah b'peh.Most people with
oral herpes don't know they are infected and don't have symptoms. Even
without symptoms, however, people can spread the infection.
Because the immune system of newborns is not developed enough to fight
serious infection, herpes infections pose grave risks to infants.
There is no proven way to reduce the risk of metzitzah b'peh
Although a mohel may use oral rinses or sip wine before metzitzah b'peh,
there is no evidence that these actions reduce the spread of herpes. A mohel
who takes antiviral medication may reduce the risk of spreading herpes virus
during metzitzah b'peh, but there is no evidence that taking medication
eliminates this risk.
Many mohelim do NOT practice metzitzah b'peh
While some religious authorities consider metzitzah b'peh the only
acceptable way to draw blood away from the circumcision cut, others use
different means. For example, some mohelim use a glass tube - or a glass
tube attached to a rubber bulb - to suction blood in a way that does not
include contact between the mohel's mouth and the baby's cut. Others use a
sponge or sterile gauze pad to wipe blood away. Unlike metzitzah b'peh,
there is no evidence that any of these practices causes infection.
Ask about metzitzah b'pehBEFORE the day of the bris
Some parents whose infants had metzitzah b'peh say they did not know the
mohel would perform it. The Health Department recommends that parents ask
the mohel several days before the bris if he practices metzitzah b'peh. This
will give time to talk to your doctor and consider other options for
circumcision.
For more information on circumcision, talk to your family doctor or
pediatrician.
More information
An Open Letter to the Jewish Community from the New York City Health
Commissioner (PDF)
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/std/std-bris-commishletter.pdf
I saw this posted;

From: "Heinrich" <***@Ruhrgasnet.de>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel
Subject: "Seif the Knife", fellator of 10,000 bloody penises, dies
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:39:46 +0200
Message-ID: <***@mid.individual.net>

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/511007.html

ABRAHAM SEIF, 86
Performed thousands of circumcisions
Posted on Sat, Apr. 26, 2008Digg del.icio.us AIM reprint print email
BY ELINOR J. BRECHER

Cantor Abraham Seif, the ritual circumciser who probably separated more newborn Jewish
boys from their foreskins than any other mohel in South Florida history, has died at 86.

Known far and wide as Seif the Knife -- or The Yankee Clipper -- the Polish-born Holocaust
survivor learned the delicate procedure in Brooklyn after World War II.

By 1988, Seif estimated he'd done 10,000 circumcisions, yet he told The Miami Herald that
he still recalled the first one.

''I fainted,'' he said. ``Everyone does.''

He died on April 21 in Hollywood, where he and Edith Seif, his wife of 57 years, lived
with their daughter, Debbie, and son-in-law, Dr. Israel Wiznitzer. A funeral was held.

When he came to Miami Beach's Knesseth Israel synagogue in 1950, Seif was the only
Orthodox mohel for hundreds of miles around.

By the time he put down his scalpel in the early 2000s -- having trained a son, Rabbi
Howard Seif, and a son-in-law, Rabbi Yitzhak Selmar -- Seif had expanded his territory to
all of Florida, Panama, Caribbean, and parts of the world where the locals wouldn't know a
mohel from a mojito, like Idaho and Haiti.

[...]

His favorite mohel joke, according to Howard: A man who needs his watch repaired walks
into a shop with a clock in the window. The shopkeeper says he doesn't fix clocks; he does
circumcisions.

Customer: ``So why do you have a clock in your window?''

Shopkeeper: ``What do you want me to put in the window?''

''He always played dumb'' when someone told him a joke he'd heard 1,000 times, Howard
said. Abraham Seif was born in the city once called Lemberg, now Lvov, and was conscripted
into the WWII Russian army. The Nazis killed his parents and 14 siblings.

[...]

By the late 1970s, the bris business was so brisk that Seif, on staff at Mount Sinai
Medical Center, brought in Howard, then an accountant and Los Angeles rabbi...

(The almighty dollar seems to be the bottom line.)

... But Seif fought for its life. He'd pick up the congregation's last few elderly men at
home to make sure there was a prayer quorum, and walked them home after Sabbath services
on Friday nights. It was sold in 2003 as a luxury private residence.
I'll Always Be Here
2008-04-30 07:55:41 UTC
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Post by Craig Stevens
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:15:15 +0000 (UTC),
Post by I'll Always Be Here
Post by Craig Stevens
Post by God's Chosen Person
In metzitzah b'peh, the mohel places his mouth on the freshly
circumcised penis to draw blood away from the cut.
Those who do such should be prosecuted for being pederasts and child abusers.
So you truly believe that the mohels derive sexual pleasure from this
procedure?
I made no such claim that they derived pleasure but the act itself is
pederastic thus being a form of child abuse.
Your claim that the act is pederasty contains the legal implication of
sexual pleasure. So either you are kurt knoll lying or kkkramer stupid.

Circumcision is no more pedophilia than taking a picture of a naked baby
on a bearskin rug is. You have a sick mind.
Post by Craig Stevens
Post by I'll Always Be Here
Post by Craig Stevens
I don't see any such perverted practice being commanded in the law of Moses.
And that makes you an expert on this?
I never claimed to be an expert but I now shift the burden to you to
prove the Old Testament or the Law of Moses commanded men to do such a
practice.
Why should I?

Sucking a penis after the foreskin has been removed is not
Post by Craig Stevens
taught in O.T. writings.
And what does that prove. I'll bet there's no writings describing how to
wear a yamulke or Tefillin but they are used.
Post by Craig Stevens
If it is then you show me and I will go on public record as being
corrected.

You make it sound like I care. You are a sick person who has pedophilia,
homosexuality and who knows what on your obsessed mind.
Post by Craig Stevens
Post by I'll Always Be Here
The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/std/std-bris.shtml
Communicable Disease : NYC DOHMH
Before the Bris: How to Protect Your Infant Against Herpes Virus
Infection Caused by metzitzah b'peh
Circumcision has health benefits. Recently, however, the Health
Department has documented several cases of herpes infection in newborns
after circumcisions that included metzitzah b'peh. Metzitzah b'pehis a
religious practice performed by some mohelim (religious circumcisers) in
the Jewish community. Some of these infants became seriously ill. One
baby died, and another suffered brain damage.
Because there is no proven way to reduce the risk of herpes infection
posed by metzitzah b'peh, the Health Department recommends that infants
being circumcised not undergo metzitzah b'peh.
To help you protect your baby, we want to make sure that parents
understand the risk of metzitzah b'peh BEFORE the day of the bris, while
there is time to explore other options.
How metzitzah b'peh spreads herpes
In metzitzah b'peh, the mohel places his mouth on the freshly
circumcised penis to draw blood away from the cut.
Those who do such should be prosecuted for being pederasts and child
abusers. I don't see any such perverted practice being commanded in the
law of Moses. I made an addition at the bottom of this post because it
dovetails to this information which everyone should be made aware of.
Post by I'll Always Be Here
If the mohel is infected with oral herpes (as most adults are),
metzitzah b'peh can expose the infant to the herpes virus. While severe
illness associated with this practice may be rare, there is a definite
risk of infection.
Oral herpes spreads easily through saliva, especially when saliva
touches a cut or break in the skin, such as during metzitzah b'peh.Most
people with oral herpes don't know they are infected and don't have
symptoms. Even without symptoms, however, people can spread the
infection.
Because the immune system of newborns is not developed enough to fight
serious infection, herpes infections pose grave risks to infants.
There is no proven way to reduce the risk of metzitzah b'peh
Although a mohel may use oral rinses or sip wine before metzitzah b'peh,
there is no evidence that these actions reduce the spread of herpes. A
mohel who takes antiviral medication may reduce the risk of spreading
herpes virus during metzitzah b'peh, but there is no evidence that
taking medication eliminates this risk.
Many mohelim do NOT practice metzitzah b'peh
While some religious authorities consider metzitzah b'peh the only
acceptable way to draw blood away from the circumcision cut, others use
different means. For example, some mohelim use a glass tube - or a glass
tube attached to a rubber bulb - to suction blood in a way that does not
include contact between the mohel's mouth and the baby's cut. Others use
a sponge or sterile gauze pad to wipe blood away. Unlike metzitzah
b'peh, there is no evidence that any of these practices causes
infection. Ask about metzitzah b'pehBEFORE the day of the bris
Some parents whose infants had metzitzah b'peh say they did not know the
mohel would perform it. The Health Department recommends that parents
ask the mohel several days before the bris if he practices metzitzah
b'peh. This will give time to talk to your doctor and consider other
options for circumcision.
For more information on circumcision, talk to your family doctor or
pediatrician.
More information
An Open Letter to the Jewish Community from the New York City Health
Commissioner (PDF)
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Subject: "Seif the Knife", fellator of 10,000 bloody penises, dies
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:39:46 +0200
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/511007.html
ABRAHAM SEIF, 86
Performed thousands of circumcisions
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BY ELINOR J. BRECHER
Cantor Abraham Seif, the ritual circumciser who probably separated more
newborn Jewish boys from their foreskins than any other mohel in South
Florida history, has died at 86.
Known far and wide as Seif the Knife -- or The Yankee Clipper -- the
Polish-born Holocaust survivor learned the delicate procedure in
Brooklyn after World War II.
By 1988, Seif estimated he'd done 10,000 circumcisions, yet he told The
Miami Herald that he still recalled the first one.
''I fainted,'' he said. ``Everyone does.''
He died on April 21 in Hollywood, where he and Edith Seif, his wife of
57 years, lived with their daughter, Debbie, and son-in-law, Dr. Israel
Wiznitzer. A funeral was held.
When he came to Miami Beach's Knesseth Israel synagogue in 1950, Seif
was the only Orthodox mohel for hundreds of miles around.
By the time he put down his scalpel in the early 2000s -- having trained
a son, Rabbi Howard Seif, and a son-in-law, Rabbi Yitzhak Selmar -- Seif
had expanded his territory to all of Florida, Panama, Caribbean, and
parts of the world where the locals wouldn't know a mohel from a mojito,
like Idaho and Haiti.
[...]
His favorite mohel joke, according to Howard: A man who needs his watch
repaired walks into a shop with a clock in the window. The shopkeeper
says he doesn't fix clocks; he does circumcisions.
Customer: ``So why do you have a clock in your window?''
Shopkeeper: ``What do you want me to put in the window?''
''He always played dumb'' when someone told him a joke he'd heard 1,000
times, Howard said. Abraham Seif was born in the city once called
Lemberg, now Lvov, and was conscripted into the WWII Russian army. The
Nazis killed his parents and 14 siblings.
[...]
By the late 1970s, the bris business was so brisk that Seif, on staff at
Mount Sinai Medical Center, brought in Howard, then an accountant and
Los Angeles rabbi...
(The almighty dollar seems to be the bottom line.)
... But Seif fought for its life. He'd pick up the congregation's last
few elderly men at home to make sure there was a prayer quorum, and
walked them home after Sabbath services on Friday nights. It was sold in
2003 as a luxury private residence.
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